Lets start with the Reivers.
These are the easy build reivers. I haven't seen the non-easy build on the shelf even if they are out. My blood angels have a significant scout section so I'm not quite sold on the reivers yet but I like the models so I wanted to paint a few. While I generally hate the easy build crap marines I'll tolerate them here because these reivers are more going to be test beds for painting and they were only 11 dollars at my local flags.
Primaris Space
Marine Reivers
Head = W 7mm x L 8mm x H 7.2mm (head only) 8.5mm (with neck)
Notes: the necks are wierd, they have a flare at the base which makes them able to tern a bit, though this didn't work once primed so millage may vary.
Torso = W 11mm (shoulders) W 9mm
(waist) x D 12mm (chest) D 13.5mm (with pack mount) x H 12mm (waist to neck) - collar 0.5mm
Notes: the body is missing the noticeable collars which I sort of like. I'd rather have had high collars on the sides and low on the front with this design but that's ok.
Legs
= Thigh W 6mm (w/o holster) x D 6.5mm x H 9mm (hip to knee)
- Lower Leg
W 6mm x D 6mm
(calf) or 4.1mm x 4.1mm (ankle) x H 9mm (knee
to ankle) [mk 10 legs]
- Foot W 5mm x D 11mm x
H 5mm
Notes: the legs are not the best cast on the crap marines. The calf plates have noticeable mold lines and the static pose is clearly done only to make the mold easier for the poorer quality plastic in use. I hope the multi part models are better.
Arms = Upper W 4.5mm x D 4.5mm x H 7.5mm
(Shoulder to elbow)
- Lower W
4.5mm x D 4.5mm
x H 5.5mm (elbow to wrist)
- hand W 3.8mm x D 2mm x
L 3.5mm (from wrist)
- Fingers L
4.5mm W 1.2
mm
Notes: what's with the stupid hose on the sergeant's arm computer? the model's arm armor is virtually identical to standard marines and they have computers without cables.
Backpack = W 18mm x D 7mm to 4mm
x H 16mm
Shoulder Pad - Left Only = W 9.2mm
x D 6.5mm x H 10mm
thickness
2mm border 1.1mm
Cuttout H 3.2mm x D 2mm
Heavy Bolt Pistol = W 3mm x L 14mm
x H 8mm
Bolt Carbine= W 3.5mm
x L 23mm x H 11mm
Combat Knife= W 4mm x D 2mm
x L 24mm blade L 18mm W 4mm
I'm guessing the size of the bolt carbine a bit but think it will be similar to this. Generally a slightly shorter bolt riffle closer in dimensions to the classic bolter. I'm very interested in equipping these guys with sniper rifles or carbines personally. I love my shotgun scouts, these could be just as interesting in my angels army if they get decent specs.
The shoulder pad only on the left side is interesting. I somewhat hate the asymmetry of that but also like it a bit. I personally would have loved the left shoulder pad to have a cloak or something drape down giving them a bit more visual interest. I might convert the reivers this way with some greenstuff.
Stormcast Eternals
I picked up two boxes of these guys as well as some loose preassembled figures. The preassembled figures are crap marines, easy build versions of the Liberators and Retributors. The boxes are Liberators and Judicators. The crap marines are specifically to paint as I actually like the design of the stormcast eternals, particularly the liberators with their double hammers. I want to paint them up as display figures with a white marble pattern with gold trim. Maybe I'll paint the duplicates with a different pattern. Not sure.
The boxes will become a project for my blood angels army. The intent is that they will be converted and replace or supplement my honor guard, maybe proxy as sanguinary guard if I can find properly cool jump packs for them. I'll need to 3d print some small bits including belt buckles and shoulder pads for them.
Ultimately I also just simply wondered what the difference in size was. Everyone calls them "Sigmarines" I wondered how different they were.
Storm Cast Eternals
Head = W 4.5mm (w/o halo) 7.2mm (w
halo) x L 6mm x H 6.5mm (head only) 8.2mm (w
neck) 12mm (w halo)
Notes: heads are slightly narrower than space
marine or IG heads but look ok thanks to the halo.
Torso = W 11.3mm
(shoulders) W 9.3mm (waist) x D 12mm (chest) x H 12mm
(waist to neck) - collar 0.5mm
Notes: no backpack mounts, the reliquaries add
a lot to the hips.
Legs
= Thigh W 6.5mm x D 6.5mm
x H 9mm (hip to knee)
- Lower Leg
W 7mm x D 6mm
(calf) or 5mm x 5mm (ankle) x H 9mm (knee
to ankle)
- Foot W 5mm x D 10mm x
H 5mm
Arms = Upper W 5mm x D 5mm x H 7mm
(Shoulder to elbow)
- Lower W
5mm x D 4mm
x H 5.5mm (elbow to wrist)
- hand W 4mm x D 2mm x
L 3.5mm (from wrist)
- Fingers L
4.5mm W 1.2
mm
Notes: the bracers on the lower arm add a 1mm
thick pad on the lower arm. The
shoulders have a weird flat plate that goes over the shoulder making the addon
shoulder pad rest on it, this plate is roughly 10mm wide making it bigger than
space marine shoulders.
Backpack = W 18mm x D 7mm to 4mm
x H 16mm
Shoulder Pad = W 12.5mm
x D 9mm x H 6mm
thickness
2mm border 2mm
Cuttout H 1mm x D 6mm
Sword = W 5.3mm x D 1.5mm x L 39mm hilt
W 11.5mm D 2.5mm
L 12mm
Short Sword = W 5mm x
D 1.5mm x L 30mm hilt W 7mm D 2.5mm L 11mm
Shield = W 15mm x L 37mm
x H 6.5mm
Hammer = W 11mm x D 5mm
x L 23mm pole W 2.5mm L 15mm
Two-handed Hammer = W 20mm x D 6.5mm
x L 44mm pole W 2.5mm L 33mm
Crossbow = W 4.2mm x L 35mm x H 9mm
[just the base, not including the bow arms]
Over all we see a trend here. For the most part the stormcast eternals are actually just slightly smaller than the primaris marines. That surprised me but also doesn't. They have a strange visually wider stance than classic and new space marines making them look bigger but they are a bit shorter with some thinner arms than new marines. Their design over all is a bit thicker but this is concealed with the curved edges of the models.
The biggest annoyance is the fact that the shoulders and torsos are a bit to different from marines but can be modified during conversions. Their weapons are a bit larger, more in keeping with the grey knights weapons than other marine chapters.
I was disappointed to discover the judicator crossbow things are a bit bigger than bolters. I was hoping i'd be able to do a quick swap of a bolter into the waiting hands but it will take more than that to get the exchange done. All in all though the basic stormcast eternals will be pretty easy to modify for 40k.
